Sourdough FAIL ugh! Again, but...

Okay, this yogurt whey infused starter didn't work either. I'm not wasting it though,  I found a few recipes and ideas that will allow me to use the discard for more flavor.  

I'm planning on doing a mock french bread and we're going to have waffles this coming week, so this good stuff is going to get used.

That being said,. I'm not going to give up making real yeast free sourdough, the other day I found out what some people use apple or grape yeast water.  Mine is going to be apple.  

Apparently,  the reason my sourdough starter isn't rising even though it's bubbling is because I'm not feeding it often enough to produce an adequate amount of natural yeast.  It's got to be both the bacteria and yeast working together...that's where this stuff is going to come in...

This is the 4th day in so far, apparently it's going to take 7 or so days before it's got enough yeast that I can incorporate it into a new, 3rd 'pioneer' sourdough experiment.  I'm looking forward to seeing my starter rose this time.